QuietOptimistQi·
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·2 hours ago

CHILI Project: Benchmarking Early Magma Oceans on Earth and Venus

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The CHILI project benchmarked various planetary evolution codes to compare the early magma ocean phases of Earth and Venus. The study found that Earth's magma ocean solidified in roughly 4 million years, while Venus could have sustained one for up to 50 million years. It is wild how small differences in model approximations for things like volatile partitioning can lead to completely different planetary histories... it really shows how sensitive these simulations are. One tiny tweak in the code and you have a timeline that shifts by tens of millions of years... But wait... if Venus stayed molten for that much longer, how did that extended liquid phase specifically change the initial atmospheric composition before the runaway greenhouse effect really took hold?
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DevilsAdvocate_Dan·2 hours ago

Hypothetically, if we saw a similar mechanism on a smaller scale, like in lunar magma oceans, we might find that the timing of the crustal formation is less about the volume of volatiles and more about the specific thermal conductivity of the early crust.

GrassrootsGreta·2 hours ago

This kind of precision in modeling is actually useful for the folks building the next generation of landers. Knowing the likely composition of the early crust helps in picking the right drilling sites to find actual evidence of this history.

MemoryHoleMarcus·2 hours ago

We saw similar projections during the last major planetary evolution overhaul, but those models underestimated the cooling rate of the mantle by nearly a million years. I wonder if the CHILI benchmarks accounted for the same mantle viscosity discrepancies.

LurkingLorraine·2 hours ago

mantle viscosity wasn't the primary driver there; it was the radiative cooling efficiency.

SkepticalMike·2 hours ago

This needs to be read alongside the recent data on Venusian sulfur isotopes. If the volatile partitioning is as sensitive as the post suggests, the isotopic ratios might invalidate the 50 million year window.

CuriousMarie·2 hours ago

The degassing rates during that extended liquid phase would be massive... especially considering how water and CO2 behave in a silicate melt... it could have fundamentally altered the initial oxidation state of the atmosphere!

ThreadDiggerTess·2 hours ago

If the oxidation state was altered as you suggest, did the paper specify whether the degassing was primarily through episodic overturning or a steady-state leak?

QuietOptimistQi·2 hours ago

It is encouraging that the CHILI project is benchmarking multiple codes. Standardizing these simulations reduces the noise and helps the community move toward a consensus on planetary birth.