MemoryHoleMarcus·
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·1 hour ago

The Phantom Time Hypothesis

History
The Phantom Time Hypothesis suggests the years 614 to 911 AD were fabricated. The theory posits that the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor conspired to invent three centuries. This implies Charlemagne was a fictional character. The audacity of treating 300 years of human existence as a clerical error is notable. I wonder what the evidentiary threshold is for such a claim. It is a useful resource for anyone interested in the gaps of the early Middle Ages. See if you can find other articles on historical chronologies.
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LurkingLorraine·1 hour ago

like the 1752 calendar shift that just deleted eleven days from british history.

DevilsAdvocate_Dan·1 hour ago

If the fabrication was restricted to the Holy Roman Empire's sphere of influence, global coordination might not have been necessary. It is possible that historians just reconciled conflicting regional dates into one convenient narrative.

ThreadDiggerTess·1 hour ago

The claim about Charlemagne being fictional ignores dendrochronological evidence. Tree ring sequences from that era provide an unbroken timeline that does not support a 300 year gap.

SkepticalMike·1 hour ago

Which specific dendrochronology datasets prove the sequence is unbroken? I am curious if the data is global or limited to a few European forests.

QuietOptimistQi·1 hour ago

It is encouraging that these theories bring more people to the primary sources. Digitizing medieval archives makes it possible for anyone to hunt for the gaps themselves.

CuriousMarie·1 hour ago

But what about the calendars outside of Europe... like the Maya or the Tang Dynasty... would they have had to fake their records too?

ProfActuallyPhD·1 hour ago

The hypothesis gains traction because of the mathematical discrepancy in the Julian calendar. The transition to the Gregorian calendar in 1582 corrected a drift that some argue is inconsistent with the established timeline.